Letter from Nolan Meats 45


In February 2015 we wrote to Terry Nolan, owner of Nolan Meats which is one of the biggest abattoirs and meat suppliers to the SE Queensland/Sunshine Coast/Gympie area. We asked Terry to stop paying the halal fee, as it is un-Australian and ultimately bad for his business.

Since then, we have learned that not only does he pay the halal certification fee but he employs only islamic slaughtermen, many on 457 visas that deprive Australians of a job. Nolan Meats Gympie also provides an islamic prayer room on the premises of their abattoir.

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The following is his response…..

Terry Nolan <[email protected]>
Date: Feb 26, 2015
to RestoreAustralia

Dear Michael,

Thank you for your email and our subsequent telephone conversation. I regret to say that you are very uninformed about the workings of our business and feel that this email is a waste of time as you didn’t appear to accept any explanation I gave you. I have honoured your request to put in writing what we spoke about but I can’t believe that you are targeting an Australian family owned business because by your own admission you can’t get a response from other large global businesses or the Australian Government Department of Agriculture to whom I directed you to for a full explanation of the Australian Government Authorised Halal Program. (Note: This is a lie. Our calls and emails to government ministers have confirmed that the government has no jurisdiction over the halal scam. It is, to quote many Ministers, “a private business decision”)

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Terry Nolan proudly displaying his halal certificate

When I was telling you about our operation you told me that you were just trying to understand. It is a pity you didn’t seek to understand first rather than threaten us with comments like “We are asking you politely now to stop paying this fee. And to make sure you understand how bad it is for Australians and for your business we have started a boycott of your products. You may not feel it at first, but as word spreads you will see the results of this very poor business decision”. Quite offensive and based on a false premise.

To say you are not going to support our products is disappointing but telling me that you buy them from Aldi only highlights that you don’t support us now as we have never sold one gram of meat to Aldi. To say that “Australian consumers are sick of paying for certification costs”, once again, is absolutely incorrect in our case. As I told you, I can put my hand on my heart and tell you that no non-Muslim Australian consumer has paid for (i.e. had passed on, as you allege) any of our certification fees. (Note: Yet another lie. He boasted to RestoreAustralia that he pays islam $0.80c per head, and then he doubles that cost to his final wholesale price, selling his meat with an additional $1.60 added to the cost.)

Our business Nolan Meats is founded on this principle of free choice. (What free choice is there Terry when you deliberately do not label your meat supplied to Australian businesses as halal?)

All religions need money to fund the upkeep of their churches, temples, schools and humanitarian work etc. and they all collect it via different means. Most collect funds by donation and return on investments from those accumulated donations. I am a practising Christian and donate regularly to my denomination. If a certification company has Muslim principals and they donate some of their earnings to fund mosques and schools etc. the same way other religions do I cannot judge or dictate their actions. We sell to people of all denominations and agnostics.

Australia is a free country that is based on individuals exercising their free choice. Australia has gone to war many times to fight to maintain that ability to freely exercise our choice. Free choice also extends to our basic marketing principle of, “Give the customer what they want and charge them accordingly”. If we want to serve a particular market segment and they require a particular certification, of which there are many, we pay for the cost of their auditing to be certified as a supplier to that segment. If we want to serve Organic markets and we do, we pay for the cost of their audit to be Certified as an Organic supplier. The same go for all customers that request a special certification to allow access to that market.

Importantly, we make sure we recoup the cost of that certification in the prices we charge the customers who are asking for that particular certification. We cull bad business, businesses who don’t want to pay what they ask for, because from an ethical standpoint it is just not fair to ask someone to pay for something someone else is requesting . The same could extend down to an individual product e.g. the customer who buys a rolled brisket, will pay more than the customer who buys a flat brisket; there is a cost for us to roll that brisket That is why we produce such a large range of product types. If people weren’t prepared to pay to exercise their choice, we could drastically reduce our product offer. As I was told many times, “Give the customer what they want and charge them accordingly”. The principle still applies.

Halal Certification is the same, we don’t charge the people any extra for Halal certified products if they don’t ask for them. If they do ask for Halal products, we make sure we charge enough to recoup the cost of the Halal certification process, e.g. we sell trim to Middle East markets, which is requesting the assurance of Halal Certification, we charge them extra to recoup the cost of the certification.  A converse argument could be mounted that we are in fact profiteering from these Muslim markets or other markets that ask for a particular certification. If we make additional profit, we naturally pay additional tax to our government, who in turn use that money to preserve our way of life, e.g. fund our defence forces or fund Australia’s assault on terrorists.

I sleep easy knowing that we run a highly ethical business.

If you are really that obsessed with the possible funding of terrorism, do the right thing and start at the primary funding source – Oil.

Anyone who refuses to believe that the wealth of the Middle East has not largely stemmed from oil is dreaming.  The message you should be putting out, is stop using oil based products (fuel, plastics etc.). Stop putting fuel in your car and lead by example. Perhaps you have taken the lazy leaders example and refused to walk the talk.  I have no reservations about the ethical standards of our business in regard to halal and the user pays principle.

Regards,
Terry Nolan
Director NOLAN MEATS PTY LTD

 

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45 thoughts on “Letter from Nolan Meats

  • chris

    he obviously doesnt understand wgst he is supporting
    As a Christian – he is going against his faith. he has to answer to God for that.

    • Nick Folkes

      Nolan understand exactly what constitutes halal slaughter and Islam however he puts profit before principle.

      There are many Christians who support halal, Muslim immigration and the building of mosques. It’s crazy but true.

  • jk leary

    I do not want halal meats and will continue to purchase my meat from Aldi, Terry you have a choice I agree however so do we the millions who used to buy your meat, hopefully now we dont. Daily I look for other companies who sell under the halal label and then look alternatives or alternate companies to spend my dollar at. I refuse to buy halal as my freedom of choice as you mentioned in your letter, good luck to you but remember each time you read your bottom line think about the millions of us Australians who do not want halal meats. We are many. Yes you might be rich that’s for sure go to your halal demanders and enjoy their custom you will never get mine.

  • valda purvis

    My objection to the halal rort is the cruelty involved in the way the animals are slaughtered neck sliced open and they are left dying in agony ,these greedy firms only interest is getting into the overseas hala market,the animals suffering is of no importance ,they pay thousands to the islamic rort,but don’t have the courage of their convictions as they don’t display the halal certification stamp on their goods,truth in labelling is a must .we have every right to know what we are buying ,no way would islam have a christian stamp on their food and we are abused because we object to having a barbaric foreign religious ideology on ours ,if on finding you have bought meat that is halal and not certified with the stamp you have every right to return it and get your money back,they are being deceitful and dishonest,ban halal.

  • HW

    You dick heads, most abattoirs are Halal. You’re unfairly targetting Terry right here. In order to export to many countries, and thus survive as an export abattoir and cater to the massive portion of the domestic market, it is only sane for Nolans to be a halal certified abattoir. Think about the economy and the longevity of the meat industry in Australia. As it stands, we are all doing it tough, and without halal certification we would be well and truly up shit creek

    • piboss Post author

      No, we will not think of the economy….if you work for a halal certified company then YOU are part of the problem. Don’t come here crying for us to support you and the moslems. It’s called the halal scam for a reason…it’s a money-making scam. So shove your idiotic appeal where the sun don’t shine!

    • BR

      Typical leftard islamist lover, name calling will get you the correct response you deserve, any Australian industry that pays the tax for this halal scam should be and will be ostracized by the majority of Australians that reject islam as a religeon and do not accept their sharia crap in this country, we will now not buy the product as a consequence of their actions. If these religious people need a prayer over their food then they can do it when they prepare it for consumption, and you idiots fall for this halal crap. Nolan has made his choice and I will be spreading the word high and low. so I hope you have a good paddle for the creek.

    • KD

      HW,
      Please get your facts straight. In 2015, 74% of the beef production in Australia was exported. The top 5 countries that Australia export to are US, Japan, Korea, China, and Canada. None of these are predominately Muslim countries, so why do we need to have predominantly halal abattoirs?!

  • Jennifer Morrison

    I think we should be informed of whether the meat we buy is halal. I mean, if it isn’t labelled as halal, then how do muslims themselves recognise it as allowed? Or do they only buy meat from halal butchers? In which case, why are supermarkets buying halal meat?

  • Jen

    I have had a few experiences with Nolans in dropping our cattle off for private slaughter.

    I do not support halal in any way or form.

    However I need to advise you that in my experience on both occasions we dealt with clearly Australian English speaking employees.

    They advised us that the cattle would be killed by the stun bolt.

    Their facility was very clean and well run and we did not observe substandard anything in the areas that we had access to.

    I would be very disappointed to discover that the points outlined above are true. I have not seen any evidence that any of your points might be true in the dealings that I’ve had with Nolans.

    • piboss Post author

      Jen, Terry Nolan admitted it in his letter to us. He also admitted how proud he is that he doubles his halal money in the phone call to us. We have spoken to Gympie residents who used to work there. They told us what goes on. You were lied to….or you are one of Terry Nolan’s shills. Either way, you are very, very wrong.

    • Jan Blighton

      Hi Jen, I thought that the stun gun did just that, it only stunned the cattle, it did not kill them, if so they still suffer while they are hung up and let bleed to death, I have seen cattle hanging and in huge pain while they bleed out, what a dreadful slow, cruel and painful death.
      Am I right or wrong?

      • piboss Post author

        There are 2 types of stunning bolt.

        Captive bolt stunning

        Also called “percussion stunning”, this method produces a physical shock to the brain. The captive bolt, if used correctly, causes irreversible damage to the animal’s brain, and can be used on cattle, pigs, sheep and goats as well as horses and camels, although electrical stunning is more common for pigs and sheep. The captive bolt method of stunning is used throughout the world, and due to the minimal running costs is the preferred method in many developing countries.

        There are two main varieties of captive bolt gun: penetrating and non-penetrating.

        A penetrating captive bolt gun fires a blank cartridge, propelling a short bolt (metal rod) from the barrel through the skull bone and producing concussion by damaging the brain or increasing intracranial pressure, causing bruising of the brain. Some types of penetrating captive bolt guns have a handle and a trigger, while others have a hand-held barrel which, when tapped against the skull of the animal, sets off the cartridge explosion.

        A non-penetrating captive bolt gun features a blunt bolt with a mushroom-shaped tip, which strikes the forehead of the animal with great force and immediately retracts, causing concussion and rendering the animal unconscious.

        Electrical stunning

        Electric stunning renders the animal unconscious by passing an electric current through the animal’s brain. It is the usual method of stunning for pigs, sheep, goats, and poultry.

        For pigs, sheep and goats, a low voltage alternating electric current is applied by means of two electrodes, which are placed on either side of the brain (or underneath the jaw and on the back of the neck) using tongs.

        For poultry, an electrified water bath is used. Birds are shackled upside-down and dragged through a trough of water that is charged with a low voltage current. Birds that lift their heads (or are smaller than normal) manage to avoid the bath and go on to be painfully killed without stunning.

        Because electric stunning does not usually cause damage to the brain, animals will regain consciousness if not quickly killed and bled out.

        This site has more information: http://www.aussieabattoirs.com/facts/stunning-killing

  • Joe

    I have stopped buying most meats from most stores as it is halal certified without being labeled as such I have even put pork product into the lamb and beef sections rendering all the meat in the cabinet not halal and the shops like coles and woolies don’t remove and clean the cabinet. So much for following halal rules. Also a young man I know has lost his once secure job as a butcher due to the 30% increase that has happened since halal was introduced. Many Australians are now not buying meat as they can’t afford it unless you have a job that pays extremely well. This butcher is now truck driving and wasted 4 years of his life doing an apprenticeship worth nothing now. Other butchers are telling me they are thinking of closing their doors as unless they start charging as much a $55/kilo for their beef they will start going broke. Boycott Nolan Meats and bankrupt him. I bet the farmers aren’t making more for their meat either. Muslims aren’t required to eat halal if they aren’t living in an Islamic country. This is the first step to selling Australia out to Islam and all the money in the world won’t save your sons and daughter Terry Nolan once sharia law takes over and it’s coming. Your actions today for money will crucify your future family. You will be remembered as the family member that sold them out for money. You have made a deal with the devil themselves by paying for this certification

  • chris stevens

    This Nolan guy should be put out of business. First for cruelty to animals in killing them in a way dictated to by muslims. Not stunned and bled to death. Suffering immense pain. Second he has to employ bloody muslims to kill the stock on this way so genuine aussie workers are denied jobs. What a disgrace. To cap it off we all pay a halal fee for our meat despite Nolan telling lies about this. He is a selfish bastard and should be wiped out of business.

  • Martann Hoffman

    Your heart is not with your fellow Australians past and present who built OUR BELOVED COUNTRY up Nolan Meats Gympie you think these people will think any more of you given the chance they will behead us all,,,, their heart has no love for us sad to say they marry babies so to speak I am sad to think that there are such humans around.

  • Bob

    If you’re in NSW or the ACT Milton Meats at Milton/Ulladulla sells direct to the public & is not & never will be Halal. You can purchase all meats all cuts & more. They’ve been under new management since December 2015

  • Rahui Tepapa David

    Is he really a Christian or a nominal. Only by name, but the heart belongs to Lucifer aka Allah aka Satan. If yes IF anyone does not abides in YHWH SABAOTH TSIDKENU JESUS CHRIST RIGHTEOUSNESS WILL AND PLANS he or she is NONE OF HIS. YOU OR WE ONLY SERVE ONE LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST RIGHTEOUSNESS. Not Allah aka Lucifer aka Satan or Buhdah, Krishna etc

  • Moya Beck

    It is so sad to hear of ,ignorant and Ill informed people in our community. ,they cause so much mistrust and misunderstanding. Thank you Terry for explaining exactly how your company works. There are many trade name certificates that have a cost to use their brand name, To me it’s like royalties when you buy recordings. I do wish people would investigate the truth of things before trying to destroy a company such as yours.

    • piboss Post author

      It is sad you are so misinformed. Try reading about the halal scam to learn how it is helping fund terrorism, instead of trying to defend the islamic scam. Every time you go shopping and buy a halal certified product you are supporting islam….NOT Australia. So if you are find with that get the hell out of our country and go live in Malaysia, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, anywhere islam has already sunk its evil claws into.

    • Bob

      You spelled label wrong and the grammar in “You can help stop to the halal rort” is also wrong. It should be “You can help stop the halal rort.” or “put a stop to …”

  • Lyn Gray

    I have put this information on facebook. They do pass on the costs, there is no way a small family business could absorb it so he’s lying.

  • Deborah Wrembeck

    I live in the Noosa area on the Sunshine Coast and I have to buy my meat from Corey Brothers in Warrick because the abbitours around here are halal compliant.
    Let me know when you give the halal thing the flick Terry and I’ll start buying your meat.

  • Mathew Norton

    Terry is only one big part of the problem. The real responsibility lies with The Commonwealth and State Departments of Agriculture and Water Resources​ to do their job, that ensure Australia’s food regulations are better designed to minimise regulatory costs to the consumer and encourage culinary and social engineering innovation and Islamic religious reform, by way of compulsory halal food labelling of all meats sold in chain supermarkets. As a practicing Christian Terry Nolan himself would understand that Islam needs to adapt to a globalised world for the sake of world peace and prosperity.

    • piboss Post author

      No! We do not want compulsory halal food labelling. We want it GONE!!! Why are we being forced to have this sharia compliant scam here in Australia at all?

  • Meredith Osborne

    To me it is the manner in which the animals are slaughtered is criminal and the farmers who sell their animals to Halal certified slaughter houses are just as bad as those who do or allow to do the killing .No animal should suffer as they are under this type of killing .

  • Raymond Gann

    I know numerous meat workers and have asked many about the halal practices of their employers. The laughable response is that if the “halal supervisor” who does or oversees the killing happens to be off sick or for any other reason isn’t present, the kills go on without halal procedures and the beast is certified anyway. So what happens to the consequential Muslim consumer…do his nuts drop off ?

  • Eden laidler

    You are a traitor to your country,what would your ancestors say about your greed before principles attitude. Get rid of your foreign workers and use Australians .STOP pandering to these vile invading standover grubs . I will never buy your product,end of.

  • Frances Baker

    What a disgrace you are Terry Nolan, it’s bad enough that you have gone HALAL but to not employ Aussies as slaughter men you are not a good /real Australian if you were you would look after your own country men first and foremost, furthermore, helping Muslims set up and run Muslim schools where they teach Muslim values in Australia instead of Australian values is very UNAUSTRALIAN thing to do, hang your head in shame Terry Nolan

  • Arthur Ernest Eggleston

    “Halal” is a scam, condoned by the R.S.P.C.A which goes against all principles of the R.S.P.C.A. Perpetrated by one man who even admits he is scamming Australians to his own benefit !!!

  • K

    Disgusting Nolans, conforming to the new fad and encouraging animal cruelty, the majority will boycott you, take note of Cadbury, says it all really!

  • Brian Wimborne

    Supporting Islam in any way is treachery. When will goons like him realise they are supporting a neo-Nazi ideology that is intent on destroying everything we value, especially our way of life. Australian Jews have been eating kosher meat for decades but they do not try to impose their rules on other Australians, nor do they channel certification fees to terrorists.

  • Steven. D.

    I wouldn’t support a company that supports muslims over Australians. Why should any Australian support such an un-Australian company?

  • Mike Connery

    No Nolan meat in my home We now buy from Mudgee lamb They sell a great range of NON halal meat and home delivery ✅✅✅✅

  • Allan Thompson

    If they want to recognise a heathen sect make it law that they support every religion with the same amount of donations.